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Re: Air Manager - Monitors display minimal specs & requirement

#11 Post by Ralph »

I can demonstrate it next week.

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#12 Post by Sling »

Using a 1024 X 768 monitor to try and display a 1920 X 1080 panel is never going to look right because they are different aspect ratios (4:3 vs 16:9). If a 4:3 monitor is the intended target the panel needs to be preferably made using the same resolution or at least the same aspect ratio. I've seen the scaling do all sorts of weird things so I never use it myself and always advise new users to select the actual monitor you intend to use when first adding. The caveat being that the aspect ratios must match as I said above.

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#13 Post by Ralph »

This is a 1024x768 screen, with a panel that is 1920x1080. As you can see, it scales perfectly fine.
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#14 Post by SimPassion »

Sling wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:57 am ...and always advise new users to select the actual monitor you intend to use when first adding
Hi Tony, this is exactly what I was trying to explain and this isn't working when expecting to achieve using a 1920 x 1080 panel to see it to fit in a 1024 x 768 monitor size/resolution. Selecting the related monitor target directly at the moment when adding the panel and always the panel is bigger than the monitor preview. Made the attempt many time after a user reported this on x-plane.org.

So seeing @Ralph picture, I have no clue how he achieved this and what are the actions or setting. I already mentioned the goal isn't indeed to resize the instruments one by one and the scaling isn't performing what we would expect ... so still full of questions and wondering ... 🤔

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#15 Post by SimPassion »

Ralph wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:06 am This is a 1024x768 screen, with a panel that is 1920x1080. As you can see, it scales perfectly fine.
1024x768voorbeeld.jpg
Thanks @Ralph for taking time 👍, I've just answered above

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#16 Post by Sling »

Right so it fits but it will never fit perfectly as can be seen in the image because the ratio is different. Can’t easily check this now as the only 4:3 monitor I have is put away in its box. No idea why it would work for Ralph and not for Gilles and others. I have seen it do weird things like this in the past though and it’s why I never use it for changes after the initial add.

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#17 Post by SimPassion »

I understand the ratio concern, though in this case this is not what we are focusing on, even if for some panels it would be better. However, at least if it fit in the preview and doesn't overlap in either way, it would be ok for us, not expecting a 4:3 match a 16:9 preview in any case, again this isn't the main goal and further I guess it would requires some coding arrangement.

We would here only expect the panel to auto scale by itself, at least by doing an additional double click for example, as we're used to, then see the panel reducing automatically with maintaining its own aspect ratio and ensuring the last dimension which is overlapping, is reduced to fit the existing same dimension in the preview (either the height or the width, in the case the other dimension isn't also overlapping itself)


At least that this :

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would be reduced to this automatically :

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#18 Post by Sling »

I understand. No idea why it would work with Ralph’s monitor but not yours. I guess not too many others will of come across this either as hardly anyone is using 4:3 1024 X 768 monitors these days.

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#19 Post by Ralph »

Then it is something GPU (driver) or OS related. For example Nvidia has their own scaling settings in their software.
I am talking about scaling when adding the panel directly to the correct monitor. Moving a panel to a different monitor afterwards doesn't do any scaling at all.

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#20 Post by SimPassion »

Ralph wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:06 pm .../...
I am talking about scaling when adding the panel directly to the correct monitor.
Indeed our goal, this should be done automatically ...

Have to take more time to understand the background, windows vs AM, before the issue is coming

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