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Zibo ICAS

#1 Post by Keith Baxter » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:51 pm

Here are two instruments that I was busy with in a collaboration with our late dear friend Derk , Gilles and myself. They are 99% complete and need some BETA testing before released to the store.

Please comment and feel free to criticize and I will do my best to rectify any faults.
On the ENG PRI I am particularly interested in the N1 seting and FMS interfacing.

NOTE the instruments do not switch using the DU panel switching. Gilles has this planned in a panel along with the dimming of the instrument.
I will also make available instruments that can be switched as stand lone.

The MFD does switch using the MFD push buttons on the auto brake panel.

NOTE: on the eng MFD the VIB is incorrect. If someone could help out on the math here, it would be appreciated. I will also convert this instrument to canvas so as to save on resources.

The ENG PRI
737_zibo_eng_pri-v001.siff
The MFD ENG and SYS
737_zibo_MFD_eng_sys_v001.siff

Keith

EDIT

@cyberguerro Your thoughts please.
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Re: Zibo ICAS

#2 Post by SimPassion » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:01 am

Hello Keith

just to mention the previous ID expected to work with DUs

local eicas_up_id (eng pri) "d3dcb85f-38c7-4d8f-3681-5e8bdb64a72a"
local eicas_lw_id (eng sys) "74f8dd4c-597e-40ba-3fc8-ab99fd32d390"

if the ID will change during time, this will broke the ability to handle Instruments switching inside DUs
Will the last UUID inside these two last instruments posted above, be the last and final UUID evolution ?
... eng pri : 213d1eba-fa39-4efd-29d8-6f802ceafe95
... eng sys : 91bc0dcd-a44c-47d9-9602-3d035c6c89ce

The best practice is to work on an initial UUID instrument and don't change it,
then making backup, for personal purpose that will not be published, by cloning the original instrument
so the UUID will still be maintained and stay unchanged on simmers/users side

Additionaly and in advance for other Zibo Instruments :
apart for OVH having already different levels of grey colors (but still to get the same base grey color as below) ,
all additionnal not published instrument should get the same base grey color value which is set currently to : RAL 7011 = #555D61
in order to avoid visual discrepancy across the Zibo instruments set

https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_ral.asp
http://www.ralcolor.com/

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#3 Post by Keith Baxter » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:29 am

@SimPassion

Gilles, yes that is correct.

Just to clarify.
UUID

1) local eicas_up_id (eng pri) "d3dcb85f-38c7-4d8f-3681-5e8bdb64a72a"
local eicas_lw_id (eng sys) "74f8dd4c-597e-40ba-3fc8-ab99fd32d390"
Are the two UUID that will be submitted to the store. These are the ID's that you should use in the panel conglomeration.

2) I will PM you the updated versions of the above instruments. Remember that I changed the templates from an img (.png) to a canvas draw.

3) The instruments published here are for BETA testing only.


PANEL COLORS

I have not requested BETA testing on the other MIP panels as the panel colors need to change. I did quite a bit or research on the 737 800 panel colors and these are the two colors that are recommended.

1) RAL 7011
The hex conversion for RAL 7011 is #53595D
https://www.e-paint.co.uk/Lab_values.as ... ron%20grey
I am converting all the panels to this color

I have noted that there is a difference between your reference and my reference. I will try and clarify which hex code is the correct one.

2) For the overhead. The "white" panels are "#B0B1A8"


Here is an interesting read.
http://www.flaps2approach.com/journal/2 ... edest.html


These are the colors that I have standardized on and will be releasing with the other MIP panels.

Keith

EDIT
It looks like even my referance is incorrect. the correct hex code seems to be. "#52595D"
https://encycolorpedia.com/52595d
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Re: Zibo ICAS

#4 Post by SimPassion » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:12 pm

Hello Keith

I've just seen that http://www.ralcolor.com is using "rgb(67,75,77)"
so in hex it would be : #414B4D

As things seems to be very different, we have still to make search and confirm, as it could be that HTML things probably have to convert the values to a more suitable usage

So, next ...

Gilles

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<TD 
    style="HEIGHT: 50px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(67,75,77)">
      <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RAL 
      7011</SPAN></P></TD>

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#5 Post by SimPassion » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:18 pm

The previous site is not the RAL Institute, so it may differ for reference in HTML
Here it is #555D61 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors

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<td title="color #555D61" style="background: #555D61; color: #000; text-align: auto"></td>
so probably the best reference as we already get it elsewhere previously

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#6 Post by Keith Baxter » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:19 pm

SimPassion wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:12 pm
Hello Keith

I've just seen that http://www.ralcolor.com is using "rgb(67,75,77)"
so in hex it would be : #414B4D

As things seems to be very different, we have still to make search and confirm, as it could be that HTML things probably have to convert the values to a more suitable usage
Yes Gilles I agree.

I also used #434B4D at one stage which is very similar. Think that is the color of the CockpitSimParts use for their panels. Cant remember anymore.

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#7 Post by Keith Baxter » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:25 pm

SimPassion wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:18 pm
The previous site is not the RAL Institute, so it may differ for reference in HTML
Here it is #555D61 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors

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<td title="color #555D61" style="background: #555D61; color: #000; text-align: auto"></td>
so probably the best reference as we already get it elsewhere previously

Gilles
OK then lets get a consensus.
We use #555D61 for the panels???

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#8 Post by SimPassion » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:37 pm

Remember that Colours displayed on HTML pages from web sites,
are consistent only if proper Monitor calibration have been done on their side using dedicated electronic calibration device wired to the computer, prior to publishing the resulting content

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#9 Post by SimPassion » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:44 pm

Here's another sample which show how things may differ from original RAL Institute research

notice the value is now different for RAL 7011 in CMYK notation : #505a5e
even if they stated : "HEX code: #52595d"

https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-class ... -iron-grey

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Re: Zibo ICAS

#10 Post by Keith Baxter » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:51 pm

Gilles

1) I will standerdise on #52595D for the individual instrument panels.
2) You must give me the color for your main MIP panel
3) I will chose a shade lighter and a shade darker for panels that have sub panels.

Keith
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